Thank Andrew Shields – he’s a standup guy, talented writer and GM – glad I got to play with him some time back!
It is rather fantastic!
I was seriously let down in this purchase.
The physical version at gamecrafter has no attached PDF, which I preferred, so I bought the PDF version from dtrpg instead… only to find out it wasn’t an alternative medium, but actually lacked a bunch of cards (30 obstacle, 20 treasure, 20 person in the PDF; 50 obstacle, 40 treasure, 40 NPC in the physical.)
I’ve never seen a PDF version of an rpg supplement be a crippled half-item before, so I didn’t even think to compare beforehand. It feels like getting bait-and-switched.
J Stein thanks for the heads up. Did you check with the vendor? Perhaps the file sent to dtrpg was incorrect? Interestingly enough I sent an email to the vendor to see if they had a PDF of this yesterday before I saw it in dtrpg. Awaiting clarification…
Sherman S I haven’t yet, that’s a good idea. The DTRPG description is accurate, though; it’s just a far inferior product to the printed cards, sold under the same name on gamecrafter. It’s not that DTRPG’s description is the same as gc’s and the file is just different.
I just hadn’t thought to compare the descriptions in that level of detail, since it’s the same (general) item sold under the same name and all.
Gotcha. Sorry to hear that. 🙁
The pdf version actually has a line on the first page as follows:
“For a more complete deck with added content and features, take a look here: http://bit.ly/1VuFQc9” which is a link to the gamecrafter site to go buy the physical deck at full price.
It seems intentional that the same product is being sold in a half-complete form in PDF, and a complete form in print.
It feels one hair shy of shady. The two item pages accurately describe their content, but the PDF item page doesn’t say “by the way, there’s an actual complete version of this item, and you’re just buying half of it here, so maybe you want to go check out the physical version first?”
The .pdf deck was actually an afterthought, done quickly, in an effort to make at least some of the project available to those overseas who faced extreme shipping charges and felt bitterly disappointed.
Part of the difficulty is that I am pressed for resources, and I use a contractor to do the .pdf graphics for me. There’s a limit to how much I can afford, as the .pdf is not just moving the content to a new medium but also adding some graphics and adjusting much of the card. There is also a limit to my command of the freelancer’s schedule for a deck update.
In the future I hope to be able to close this gap, but for now it’s the best I can do.
Thanks for the explainer, Andrew Shields, and I totally understand how the added expense of creating PDF graphics for a niche product might be prohibitive for somebody not in the business. Do you have plans to do another deck? I’d plunk down some hard-earned duckies for a deck deaux.
Governor Breck I have plans in the works to update the existing .pdf, but it’s not wise to announce any sort of detail or commitment until it’s a sure thing and nearly done (or after.)
I actually do have a new deck in the works. It is different than this one, but I am pretty excited by how it will give the game some fresh possibilities. I’ll have more later once I get the writing done and find some graphic design assistance.
Dang, but those cards look fine! (Andrew does do good work.)
Best game aid I own.
What are they?
Heist Deck. thegamecrafter.com – Duskwall Heist Deck
I just ordered a deck. Thanks for the tip.
I ordered one too!
Add me to the list of buyers! Great sales pitch!
Thank Andrew Shields – he’s a standup guy, talented writer and GM – glad I got to play with him some time back!
It is rather fantastic!
I was seriously let down in this purchase.
The physical version at gamecrafter has no attached PDF, which I preferred, so I bought the PDF version from dtrpg instead… only to find out it wasn’t an alternative medium, but actually lacked a bunch of cards (30 obstacle, 20 treasure, 20 person in the PDF; 50 obstacle, 40 treasure, 40 NPC in the physical.)
I’ve never seen a PDF version of an rpg supplement be a crippled half-item before, so I didn’t even think to compare beforehand. It feels like getting bait-and-switched.
J Stein thanks for the heads up. Did you check with the vendor? Perhaps the file sent to dtrpg was incorrect? Interestingly enough I sent an email to the vendor to see if they had a PDF of this yesterday before I saw it in dtrpg. Awaiting clarification…
Sherman S I haven’t yet, that’s a good idea. The DTRPG description is accurate, though; it’s just a far inferior product to the printed cards, sold under the same name on gamecrafter. It’s not that DTRPG’s description is the same as gc’s and the file is just different.
I just hadn’t thought to compare the descriptions in that level of detail, since it’s the same (general) item sold under the same name and all.
Gotcha. Sorry to hear that. 🙁
The pdf version actually has a line on the first page as follows:
“For a more complete deck with added content and features, take a look here: http://bit.ly/1VuFQc9” which is a link to the gamecrafter site to go buy the physical deck at full price.
It seems intentional that the same product is being sold in a half-complete form in PDF, and a complete form in print.
It feels one hair shy of shady. The two item pages accurately describe their content, but the PDF item page doesn’t say “by the way, there’s an actual complete version of this item, and you’re just buying half of it here, so maybe you want to go check out the physical version first?”
Caveat emptor, I guess.
Andrew Shields
fictivefantasies.wordpress.com – Blades in the Dark
The .pdf deck was actually an afterthought, done quickly, in an effort to make at least some of the project available to those overseas who faced extreme shipping charges and felt bitterly disappointed.
Part of the difficulty is that I am pressed for resources, and I use a contractor to do the .pdf graphics for me. There’s a limit to how much I can afford, as the .pdf is not just moving the content to a new medium but also adding some graphics and adjusting much of the card. There is also a limit to my command of the freelancer’s schedule for a deck update.
In the future I hope to be able to close this gap, but for now it’s the best I can do.
Thanks for the explainer, Andrew Shields, and I totally understand how the added expense of creating PDF graphics for a niche product might be prohibitive for somebody not in the business. Do you have plans to do another deck? I’d plunk down some hard-earned duckies for a deck deaux.
Governor Breck I have plans in the works to update the existing .pdf, but it’s not wise to announce any sort of detail or commitment until it’s a sure thing and nearly done (or after.)
I actually do have a new deck in the works. It is different than this one, but I am pretty excited by how it will give the game some fresh possibilities. I’ll have more later once I get the writing done and find some graphic design assistance.
Andrew Shields Sweet! Put me down for a deck. 🙂