What’s up with assassins?

What’s up with assassins?

What’s up with assassins? Why take a hagfish farm when you could have crow’s veil? Maybe I’m missing something, but +1d towards heat when killing seems worse than no heat when killing. And considering hagfish farm is three claims away, they’ll likely have an ability advance or two by then?

13 thoughts on “What’s up with assassins?”

  1. To quote one of my favorite shows: “No body no crime”. Safe body disposal for heat means no one should physically stumble on the body. Crow’s Veil should keep the ghost part from popping up and alerting the spirit wardens. They kind of work in perfect tandem.

  2. They stack. With Crow’s Veil you don’t tack the additional +2 heat when killing. With Hagfish Farm you can add a +1d when rolling to remove Heat, which is useful as you’re still going to gain Heat even without that +2 killing add.

  3. Oh, right. Each has fictionally placed advantages and disadvantages. Hagfish farm, you gotta actually get the body there, but then it’s gone. Crow’s veil, the body’s still there but might not be discovered / investigated for a while.

  5. Because obtaining a claim (like Hagfish Farm) is a different matter than earning an advance (like Crow’s Veil). You can make that your first operation, but you actually have to take the claim away from someone else. Arguably, this makes it worse than the Veil.

    The thought does occur though that Crow’s Veil preempts the benefit of Hagfish Farm: i.e. if you are not taking extra heat from killing, can you also get +1d to reduce heat from killing? I would adjust the wording slightly so it reduces “heat from scores that had killing“, since “heat from killing” implies “[extra] heat from killing” – which would be 0 with Crow’s Veil.

  7. Alexander Davis as read it, it just adds a 1d when reducing Heat from a job that involves killing — not necessarily just the +2 you’d add without Crows Veil. As Chris McDonald says, a body always has repercussions regardless of if the crows find you.

  8. Alexander Davis well it is three ops to make it “vulnerable” but you can make any claim your target at any time regardless (it’s just less vulnerable than if it was on the path from a claim you already have)

    I read it that way too Colin Fahrion but I can also see that a literal reading would lead to confusion about what it actually affects.

  9. Yep, they’re different (but related) things. Hagfish Farm is positioned on the claims map so it’s out of your way if Crow’s Veil is already good enough for ya (it’s not in the way of another claim).

  11. Yeah, they do stack. The way it’s written is a little confusing, though. I’ll re-write Hagfish Farm so it’s obvious that it works with Crow’s Veil.

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